tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post4666382464047556112..comments2024-02-25T19:19:39.854+11:00Comments on I prefer reading: The Last Days of Richard III - John Ashdown-Hilllynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-11608024130408521802013-03-14T07:42:15.571+11:002013-03-14T07:42:15.571+11:00Yes, I agree. I noticed that PL was an associate p...Yes, I agree. I noticed that PL was an associate producer on the second program (maybe the first as well, I didn't notice) so I wonder if that had any effect on the way she was presented? Certainly the second program had more of the scientific tests that were done but I felt they also did a lot of rehashing. Surely everyone who watched the second program would have seen the first? Still, it was PL's obsession that made the dig happen so I don't really think it matters what people think of her. I can't wait to read all the books & articles that will result from this.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-65970378312263360392013-03-13T21:00:42.771+11:002013-03-13T21:00:42.771+11:00I have seen both and she came out slightly better ...I have seen both and she came out slightly better in the second one. <br /><br />In the first she came across as being slightly oddball when she wanted the box of excavated bones wrapped in the flag and put in the vehicle. The archaologist was unhappy about having anything to do with that because as she said, as things stood they had no real proof that the bones were indeed Richard's. She was, understandably so, being a person of science and dealing with facts and proof. PL was being romantic and letting her heart rule her head.<br /><br />The second programme showed much more about the science of discovering who the bones belonged to. PL did not feature as much and I was pleased about that. Not because I have anything against her, but I am always mindful that clever editing can put a different spin on anything.<br /><br />And poor Richard has certainly suffered at the hands of history's spin doctors.<br /><br />Perhaps when Richard is finally laid to rest there will be another documentary which shows Philippa Langley and others in a different light. Without their efforts and money to pay for the excavation, the king would still be in the car park.<br /><br />JB<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-90212126735744017442013-03-12T07:52:33.760+11:002013-03-12T07:52:33.760+11:00I will get there one day! By the time I get there ...I will get there one day! By the time I get there he'll be buried in the Cathedral so I'll have a tomb to visit. I agree that PL didn't come out well in the first program but if she hadn't had the passionate obsession with Richard, he wouldn't have been found. At least her obsession was backed up by research. I look forward to seeing the second program.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-6908076127532258452013-03-12T07:50:31.625+11:002013-03-12T07:50:31.625+11:00The Unseen Story doco has been uploaded to YouTube...The Unseen Story doco has been uploaded to YouTube & I plan to watch it soon. The Kendall biography is one of my favourites even though he was very pro-Ricardian. It's so well-written & was very influential in its time. I read it again a few years ago & still loved it. Charles Ross was more anti-Richard, I think, although it's been a long time since I read his book.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-19681582541213461912013-03-12T07:48:05.022+11:002013-03-12T07:48:05.022+11:00It was fascinating, especially his focus on those ...It was fascinating, especially his focus on those last few months of Richard's life without the benefit of hindsight. And, as you say, his research had already led to a very accurate description of the aftermath of Bosworth & Richard's burial.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-5024877757226016352013-03-12T07:27:43.491+11:002013-03-12T07:27:43.491+11:00You must come over and see it all for yourself Lyn...You must come over and see it all for yourself Lyn! I didn't think Philippa Langley came out well in that documentary (though there are two, one that deals more with the science which I haven't seen, but is maybe the one you have?). Desperate Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708411387912078122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-24030645558833272992013-03-12T05:43:07.502+11:002013-03-12T05:43:07.502+11:00Thanks for this, I've just downloaded the John...Thanks for this, I've just downloaded the John Ashdown Hill book to my kindle. I must look for David Baldwin's book too. The only biographies of Richard III I have read is one by Paul Murray Kendall and the other by Charles Ross. There was a second documentary shown recently called 'Richard III the Unseen Story' which showed more on the research done than the first one, hope you get a chance to see that one too:)Rosiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04733563829902335223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-7398231424828356062013-03-12T04:20:07.528+11:002013-03-12T04:20:07.528+11:00That prediction is amazing! The rest of this book ...That prediction is amazing! The rest of this book sounds fascinating too.elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17825540813779206354noreply@blogger.com