tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post6791324908465769880..comments2024-02-25T19:19:39.854+11:00Comments on I prefer reading: Rejecting Tonypandylynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-56173604949307751522018-01-06T10:15:03.992+11:002018-01-06T10:15:03.992+11:00While it is true that miners were not shot at Tony...While it is true that miners were not shot at Tonypandy, other things happened. During the period of martial law in the Rhondda my own father, when a young child, was kicked and threatened with rifle butts by soldiers manning a checkpoint at the bottom of Graigwen hill in Pontypridd. This was because he tried to interfere when the soldiers thought it amusing to indecently assault my grandmother as she returned home from shopping. So no dead miners but lots of other brutality.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17323467505583081632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-71156695971875500922017-06-06T19:56:41.751+10:002017-06-06T19:56:41.751+10:00The historical fiction I read as a teenager starte...The historical fiction I read as a teenager started my fascination for history & it's never left me. I read more historical non-fiction now than fiction but I still love my favourites like DOT. I still read every book about Richard I can find.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-18791814909879057382017-06-04T20:41:32.886+10:002017-06-04T20:41:32.886+10:00And nearly 5 years after the last comment was publ...And nearly 5 years after the last comment was published, and for the first time, I'm reading Tey's compelling book. From black to white to grey indeed. Richard's history is fascinating. Anything that prompts people to study history is welcome. <br />The bones have now been proven to be those of RIII thanks to DNA testing of a Canadian descendant. <br />Xpressohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07356881150189579957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-85079081507340106422012-11-26T18:44:32.545+11:002012-11-26T18:44:32.545+11:00Won't it be wonderful if the skeleton really i...Won't it be wonderful if the skeleton really is Richard? The discussions that will result will just go on & on. I can't wait. I think I'm one of the many who joined the RIII Society because of this book.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-14135526087570764862012-11-26T05:24:52.189+11:002012-11-26T05:24:52.189+11:00Oh my goodness - I was just reading an article in ...Oh my goodness - I was just reading an article in which they've found the bones of Richard III and it made me think of Tey. She too had me convinced of RIII's innocence because of Inspector Grant. How lovely to see I'm not the only one. Tonypandy, indeed!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01196698632115735334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-56567071288341629762012-08-30T20:32:24.896+10:002012-08-30T20:32:24.896+10:00In a contemporary legal record (Term 2 in 1484), E...In a contemporary legal record (Term 2 in 1484), Edward V is described as a bastard; Plea Rolls of the Common Pleas - as seen in the top entry, line 7 of<br />http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/R3/CP40no888/aCP40no888fronts/IMG_0254.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-6266179945761324552012-06-20T19:53:02.177+10:002012-06-20T19:53:02.177+10:00Oh, I'd forgotten that PB had started writing ...Oh, I'd forgotten that PB had started writing science fiction. I was wondering last night what had happened to her when I realised the Civil War books were written 20 years ago. I'll have to investigate. Have you read Ann Bridge's Julia Probyn books? They're travel/suspense fiction, in the style of the Johnson books or Mary Stewart. Bloomsbury have recently released them as e-books. Click on Ann Bridge in my tags list to read my reviews. I hope you find a new author.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-43370264655528088222012-06-19T23:56:25.772+10:002012-06-19T23:56:25.772+10:00Ah, I should have guessed that you had read DD and...Ah, I should have guessed that you had read DD and the others. I don't think i go a year without reading the Lymond chronicles, or at least re-reading Checkmate. See, obsessed! Curiously,i don't feel the same way about the Niccolo series. I enjoyed PBelle's Civil War trilogy too. I was a bit dismayed when she moved into the SCI-fi genre. has she come back from the dark side? :> I will look at your other reviews for recommendations. I need a new author to beguile me. I haven't read any of the Johnson stories. I really should.... <br />Caroline McAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-76177562809497127062012-06-19T18:52:04.107+10:002012-06-19T18:52:04.107+10:00Hello Caroline, thanks for commenting. I agree wit...Hello Caroline, thanks for commenting. I agree with you about the delights of reading about Richard. I think Elizabeth Woodville was either pushed or strongly encouraged into that convent. I can't believe she went willingly, especially as her daughter had just had a son & she could have expected to play some role at Court. Maybe Margaret Beaufort was jealous of her beauty?! I'd like to blame Henry for the murder of the princes but where did they go after 1483? I've read all the books you mention. I enjoyed the Lymond books & her Macbeth book (Macbeth's another obsession of mine, it's my favourite Shakespeare play) but I'm not passionate about them. I don't think I could reread them. Have you read DD's detective/suspense novels? I read them a very long time ago. I loved Penman & Belle. I loved Pamela Belle's Civil War trilogy too. I've been to York, visited Monk Bar & gave my verdict. I like to think the Northerners were right about Richard, he's certainly a fascinating enigma.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-31664698156913867832012-06-19T17:42:40.952+10:002012-06-19T17:42:40.952+10:00This is the only book I have read of Tey's and...This is the only book I have read of Tey's and I love it; but my obsession with Richard III began before that. My current thinking is I guess more "grey" too in that I think he may have coveted the throne and the power but I don't think he murdered his nephews. I enjoyed Grant's deducing and the looking for breaks in normal pattern. I mean, Elizabeth Woodville was put away wasn't she, or is that in doubt? Besides that, being a Yorkshirewoman originally (me that is, not EW)I have to say it is hard to fool those shrewd, no-nonsense northern English folk and he was loved up there. That's on record. I have been to Middleham Castle and to the Museum in York (at Monk Bar?) where they run a sort of trial of Richard and you get to give your verdict. Sharon Penman's Sunne In Splendour and Pamela Belle's The Lodestar are good reads too, no detective element though. if you really want a new obsession read Dorothy Dunnett! Start with the Lymond Chronicles, Game of KIngs, and keep going through the first third (before which most people give up) and you could well be hooked. been such a fan for 30 years and more she still remains not that well known. or you might like her King Hereafter, about Macbeth. happy reading! caroline in adelaideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-4095872676464249432011-04-25T16:49:46.164+10:002011-04-25T16:49:46.164+10:00Geoffrey, I agree that Tey's prejudices show b...Geoffrey, I agree that Tey's prejudices show but that's true of any book, especially the middlebrow middle class books of the 20s & 30s that I love. She doesn't include some anti-Richard material in the book but she is writing fiction. I don't believe she imagined the book would be so influential & that it would lead so many people to do more reading & join the Richard III Society. Amazing for a detective novel.lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-64638736891895368202011-04-25T13:47:58.191+10:002011-04-25T13:47:58.191+10:00I also read this book a year or two ago. The prem...I also read this book a year or two ago. The premise is good and it really kept me interested.<br /><br />Unfortunately, being from an English working-class background, Tey's obvious middle-class prejudices rather irritated me - for example her view of the British "bobby".<br /><br />I then did some research of my own on the facts of Tonypandy and discovered that Tey's version is as faulty and biased as the propagandistic version that she criticises! <br /><br />However, this only shows that we should be skeptical of *everything* we read - including novels pointing out the importance of being skeptical.<br /><br />Geoffrey from BrisbaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-26483233170784149642010-10-12T20:04:01.457+11:002010-10-12T20:04:01.457+11:00Hayley, the US paperback edition is lovely. That&#...Hayley, the US paperback edition is lovely. That's it on the left in the first photo. The other copy is my ancient Penguin paperback from the 70s. I also have the Folio edition but I don't like the illustrations, apart from the title page incorporating Millais's picture. The illustrations are photo collage & I think they're just not my taste at all. I need to find time to reread the rest of Tey!lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04509400868331534237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-50180666975285329962010-10-12T19:45:54.411+11:002010-10-12T19:45:54.411+11:00I remember the first time I read this in my teens ...I remember the first time I read this in my teens and feeling just the way you did about it, after all the black legends a white version was so alluring. I no longer have a copy - but think I need to look out for one.Desperate Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708411387912078122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-29882669930795944212010-10-12T18:56:32.280+11:002010-10-12T18:56:32.280+11:00I first read this in my teens and have re-read it ...I first read this in my teens and have re-read it several times since. Wonderful book! and I too love all of Josephine Tey.harriethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04470091985662379182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-8340145774770019812010-10-12T13:01:56.088+11:002010-10-12T13:01:56.088+11:00I read this last year and really enjoyed it, espec...I read this last year and really enjoyed it, especially since I studied some history in university. Sad to know it's not actually true, but I did love the combination of history and mystery!Carolynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11538459607519844826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3020849054403226268.post-89032997807808872452010-10-12T12:35:13.803+11:002010-10-12T12:35:13.803+11:00Lyn, I love this book as well. In fact, I love all...Lyn, I love this book as well. In fact, I love all the Josephine Tey books I've read. I reread DAUGHTER OF TIME all the time and fall head over heels under its spell every time. I've always hoped her version was the true one though I realize it's practically impossible to actually know. Grey is good enough, I suppose. ;)Yvettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08919246184376538331noreply@blogger.com